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    Default lor visualizer

    post tutorials here for lors visualizer
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    are you sure we checked every pixel?The Home of North Carolina's Largest tomato cage pixel tree.http://www.thelightsonpurserroad.com

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    ccr draw wizard
    are you sure we checked every pixel?The Home of North Carolina's Largest tomato cage pixel tree.http://www.thelightsonpurserroad.com

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    props and fixtures
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    Since the LOR Visualizer has a fixture limit of 1024, how can we get all these Non-LOR pixels in the visualizer without busting the limit? Well Brian Bruderer came up with a solution for using Non-LOR Pixels in a visualizer, importing the .lee file into Superstar, and being able to export a sequence as large as your license will allow. 24 CCR version 3600 total channels, 40 CCR version, 6000 channels. I know this thread is for the visualizer and how to use it, but, if you're using the visualizer to import DMX pixels into Superstar, this might help. Now, as everybody knows, The LOR software is basically set-up for LOR Hardware. However, there are a bunch of folks that can't afford or simply refuse to pay the higher prices for their Rock Solid equipment. I say this because I'm one of them. 2013 is coming to a close, but in my planning stages last year, I wanted to do a Pixel Tree with 16 legs of 50 pixels. Even with the CCP/Bs being 100 Pixels, I was still looking at $1600 to do the tree. Using CCRs, it would have been $4000. I put together a 16 leg pixel tree this year for about $600 (not including structure) by using Pixels from Ray Wu and a Sandevices E682.
    With all that being said, here is what Brian came up with for DMX pixels and it works. This is the write-up he posted when it was released:
    Superstar and DMX? - SuperStar Sequencer - Light-O-Rama Forums
    and here is my video showing how it's done:

    I hope this helps some folks who are struggling like I was this passed year.
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    Yipes ! I am looking at moving to Nutcracker and it has a Visualizer that is mostly for the pixel stuff. You can model anything you want. So I am hoping to use Visualizer for most of my show, and then use Nutcracker to see the pixel stuff .. It will not help me to combine the two .. it might take some trial and error .. Nutcracker experts and Imports LOR.

    Nutcracker also gives the option of moving to xLights, if your LOR config gets to the point where you get lag. IN that case you run all your LOR controllers with DMX wiring instead of LOR wiring.


    another one I will be watching is HLS .. Checkout this post from DIYC:

    http://doityourselfchristmas.com/for...zer+RGB+Pixels
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlightmadness View Post
    setting up rgb pixels in the visualizer along with just regular strands of AC lights in the visualizer just doesn't seem possible. you would have to user superstar for the rgbs. seems like they havent come up with a way to do both in one visualizer to get an overall picture of whats going on when your program.
    I have to disagree with this statement. 2012 I had 112 LOR channels and about 442 RGB pixels, and some dumb nodes. Allnwas drawn in the visualizer. 2013, I had 1500 + pixels and 70 LOR channels with dumb RGB, all drawn in the visualizer. This year over 2500 pixels and dumb RGB and my visualizer was done last week. You don't have to use Superstar for RGB, but its a massive time saver for pixels. I can do in 30 seconds in superstar what would take about 2 hours in the S3.

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    you are more then welcome to disagree. i just haven't found an easy way to do it. this could just be that i haven't discovered it. 2013 lights i did the exact same thing using lor as i did the year before. no new programming. didnt have the time. 2012 was my first year to LOR. so i am by no means an expert and still learning discovering. there could be a really easy way to do it and i just haven't figured that out. seems like it should be easier then what i'm making it out to be.


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    OK. There are several ways to do it. Agreed it's going to take some work but once you have it done, you will really like how you can see what you're doing for the sequence.
    So here's the first step. Go over to LOR Forum and look up "itsmebobo" and in his signature, go to his download page. Download "Vegomatic"
    Step 2, go here: and watch Andy's description on how to load massive amounts of RGB channels into a channel config in a matter of minutes to hours as opposed to days. You'll actually need to do this twice. Once for the CCR Props and Once for DMX channels. This is where the work comes in. Use the CCR channel Config for sequencing and using the visualizer. Once you're satisfied with the sequence, and it's ready for your show, Copy the CCR Channels to the DMX channels and it's done. You can add both CCR and DMX channels into one channel config, just seperate them with tracks. After copying and pasting is done, delete the CCR channels.
    Step 3, Create all of your 25 or 50 count RGB Strings as Cosmic Color Devices instead of DMX pixels. This will help get around the 1024 fixture limit in the Visualizer. For example, A 16 leg by 50 pixel DMX tree will take 800 fixtures. The same tree drawn as CCRs will only use 16 fixtures.

    If you're new to the visualizer, it seems like a lot of work, but once you're familiar with it, It becomes a lot easier.

    This is what all of us within an hour or so of each other are doing here in TN. Doug in Cleveland has over 20K channels, Andy has probably that or more. I will have over 8K channels this year.

    I'm including my visualizer for this year to give you an idea, if you care to look at it. It includes the House drawing and the .lee file in a zipped folder.
    -house-drawingstraight-on_w_plasmacicles.jpgNew Visualizer.zip

    Hope this helps
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    I am glad we are going through this because I am planning to add a pixel tree this year (and keep LOR). I didn't see the itsmebobo posts, but I did find a lot of people complaining about RGB limits in Visualizer.

    All of us with RGBs need to look into how to fake them as CCRs (as much as possible). Since I am planning to use 50-bulb strings, the addressing should match exactly.
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    The two pixel trees I have in the above visualizer along with the windows, fan and arches are CCR props. That's a total of 2050 pixels. That's twice as much as the visualizer will allow. But, using the CCR method, They are currently taking up 39 fixtures. 2050 vs. 39. For that kind of savings, I'll do the extra work and take the extra time for copy/paste. I can see my whole show at once except for the matrix I'm building. Which, incidentally, are the only CC Devices I use in my show, everything else is WS2811 pixels or RGB modules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dariansdad View Post
    The two pixel trees I have in the above visualizer along with the windows, fan and arches are CCR props. That's a total of 2050 pixels. That's twice as much as the visualizer will allow. But, using the CCR method, They are currently taking up 39 fixtures. 2050 vs. 39. For that kind of savings, I'll do the extra work and take the extra time for copy/paste. I can see my whole show at once except for the matrix I'm building. Which, incidentally, are the only CC Devices I use in my show, everything else is WS2811 pixels or RGB modules.
    This is good to know. It would be nice if you could share any tips or procedures that you follow. We could copy your info into the Visualizer video tutorial section, since a lot of us will need to go this route.
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    Let me get something written up over the next couple of days and I'll post it here or wherever it needs to go. I'll try to also get a video done and show what it takes. In Andy's video above, and Bob's Vegomatic program coupled with using CCRs for your props instead of DMX pixels, most folks could probably get it done in a couple of hours. Definitely in a weekend. I think I read a post from Bob that he added 20+ Universes into S3 in a few minutes. That's with them already converted to RGB Channels.

    I'm thinking on Monday, I may start setting up my Channel Config, since my plans for this year are about 90% complete. If I do, I'll do a screen grab vid and post it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dariansdad View Post
    Let me get something written up over the next couple of days and I'll post it here or wherever it needs to go. I'll try to also get a video done and show what it takes. In Andy's video above, and Bob's Vegomatic program coupled with using CCRs for your props instead of DMX pixels, most folks could probably get it done in a couple of hours. Definitely in a weekend. I think I read a post from Bob that he added 20+ Universes into S3 in a few minutes. That's with them already converted to RGB Channels.

    I'm thinking on Monday, I may start setting up my Channel Config, since my plans for this year are about 90% complete. If I do, I'll do a screen grab vid and post it also.
    Awesome .. Things like this always help our site grow .. and help others move up in the food chain !
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    rgb is in the visualizer is not easy but it can be done i have it in mine no i have not set up the matrix yet but its coming i have my rgb star in it and my rgb floods
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