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    Default Run Rules for Weather

    How do you guys decide when to run and when not to run. It is raining lightly in Cary right now .. but everything is wet. Should I leave the system off ?

    If it matters, everything is wired to GFI outlets ..
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    I think it is judgement call Denny. It is damp here but not very wet. When I start seeing water run off and getting very wet I shut it down.

    Don

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    Denny we just shut down. Play it safe !!

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    I have had never shut down due to rain, no GFCI trips either.
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    If its really raining, I wont run it. If it rained during the day and everything is wet, I'll try to run it. But if I trip a circuit, I'll stop. Thats what happened tonight. Its not raining now but I have one outlet tripped. I tried to use my backpack blower to get the water off the plugs, but it didnt work.

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    The only thing that slows me down is high winds... No problem running the show in the rain... Water is a poor conductor... What ever you do DO NOT WRAP UP THE CONNECTIONS! All it does is hold moisture in... Run you show and enjoy it while you can...

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    Things that get me are rain, wind, snow, ice, and FOG!

    Living at 3000ft elevation, we get it all.

    Tonight, we have winds gusting to 40 mph.. so I left the mega trees up.

    If it get higher, I'll just let them down.

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    I call it the 15 minute rule. It takes me 15 minutes to shake all of the connectors and test the lights. That means if it stopped 15 minutes before the show.

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    I appreciate all the comments. It's good to have perspectives. I am thinking that since my whole power layout is well within spec I will try to run as much as I can. I also like Al's 15 minute rule !

    I have very carefully balanced all my GFI circuits, and then measured each leg of each controller. My spreadsheet even compares my estimated numbers to my measured numbers. Everything is WAY within spec. The largest 8 channel group is carrying 8.8 amps. And I have used my GFI outlet box as a patch panel to move the controller power-plugs around - - to make sure I am also balanced on the Main Panel breaker that goes to my Christmas Lights sup-panel. The Sub Panel is carrying exactly 25.5 amps on each leg when all lights are on. I was amazed that the numbers matched exactly.
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    I'll run it in the rain if things cooperate. Not all my circuits are GFCI, but since much of it is lower power stuff (LEDs, small stuff) I don't get too many trips.

    However, since much of the show is animated, if one or two controllers go out, it's probably time to shut it down.
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    Quote Originally Posted by mschell View Post
    I'll run it in the rain if things cooperate. Not all my circuits are GFCI, but since much of it is lower power stuff (LEDs, small stuff) I don't get too many trips.

    However, since much of the show is animated, if one or two controllers go out, it's probably time to shut it down.
    You will not have any problems... The show runs with no problems in the rain... Water is a poor conductor of electricity...

    Because of the wind coming I will shut down the inflatables tonight...

    Again there is no problems running it in the rain....

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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    It's been raining here since real early this morning. The show started on time at 5:00 pm with no problems (almost). Really pouring right now.

    The problem? I just watched (last 10 min) as a huge wind gust took down one of my 7 channel 12 foot vertical vue-meter poles. Grounds so wet, pulled the guy wire stakes out.

    It's laying on the ground, "flashing/blinking" away in the pouring rain. Guess it didn't know that it fell down
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    Been busy here the last 30 minutes, gathered up stuff to fix the fallen vue-meter pole, was standing on the porch, watched another big wind gust take out a 2nd (of four) 12 foot vue-meter pole, move and flip some of the lighted packages under the mega-tree and topple my tune-to sign.

    Fortunately, right after that gust, the rain stopped and the winds died down some, got everything back up and in place just using the lights from the still running show to see by.

    Maybe the rest of the evening and night will be OK. I'll be up early in the morning before I go to work to acess what happened overnight

    OK, I'm tired of todays wind and rain, and just because of the Christmas Spirit, I want to share with my Carolina friends, I'm sending this weather mess over your way.
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    Tried to run but one of my GFIs keeps going out. It does not have much load but it does have two different controllers. I'm down when it's openly raining. Will try again tomorrow.
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    Default Re: Run Rules for Weather

    Sorry for your problems Denny. I remember how aggravating that used to be to me.

    I'm only using 15 of my contollers this year (cut a lot out that I didn't have time to set up) and thanks to almost all LED, just using 3 non-dedicated 15 amp circuits. Switching to sealed LEDs eliminated my GFCI trips.

    If I had been using incadescent mini's, there is no way I could have restored the two 12 foot vue-meter poles tonight while still live with power standing on soaked ground. Mini's would probably have broken anyway.

    These are a couple of photos I snapped tonight, after repairs, 3 of the vue-meter sticks can be seen on the right.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails -im000197.jpg   -im000201.jpg  
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