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    Default VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    Question for y'all about VMPs ("Vue Meter Poles"):

    What does that look like in the actual software (S2)? Do you fade in the lights? Do you really have to cut the "beats" into several tiny chunks in order to get that smooth transition up and down the light poles?

    Thanks in advance for your help!!!
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    Default Re: VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    I use a ramp up and then immediately ramp down for each segment of the pole. It looks like a triangle in the sequence editor. I also start the ramp up for the next segment as the ramp down begins for the prior. Ramps give it a nice transition instead of a sharp on and off.

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    Default Re: VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    Scott,

    For my VMP, like the one I showed in Charlotte, I use the Vue Wizard tool. No ramping necessary like you would for a leaping arch.

    The Vue Meter is a volume representation of the music, so just like a Vue Meter on your home sound system, some segments will be on more then others and the peaks will flash on and off.

    Also on my multicolor VMP, I use 16 channels, connected to 16 strings of 50 count lights per pole. The "filter cloth" that I slide down over the whole pole acts as a diffuser and blends the lights, therefore eliminating the need for ramps and the Vue wizard will program all 16 channels in about 3 minutes (or less) total time for a song. The very easiest element to program.

    TIP: The VMP using the Vue Wizard is the very LAST thing I add in a sequence, as it will create 1000's of timing grids in the sequence rendering it difficult to do other elements later.
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    Default Re: VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Scott,

    TIP: The VMP using the Vue Wizard is the very LAST thing I add in a sequence, as it will create 1000's of timing grids in the sequence rendering it difficult to do other elements later.
    I think that's why they have the track feature; put this into another track, it shouldn't affect the timing marks on the other effects.

    I'll have to give the VU meter a try.

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    Default Re: VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Stevens View Post
    I think that's why they have the track feature; put this into another track, it shouldn't affect the timing marks on the other effects.

    I'll have to give the VU meter a try.
    That is true Jack. But since the Vue Wizard is a "no thinking" way of sequenching the VMP, I just always leave it for last, then I can slap the big DONE stamp on the sequence.
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    ok, so here's the deal. I've got a 30 second section in a song where I think this would look good. I plan on using the 5 mini-trees going up the sidewalk and driveway out front as the VMPs. So far, my efforts to make it look good manually have failed. I think I found the "VU Wizard" along with the tapper wizard and a couple other wizards. I also see "Add new track", but have never used it before. Is there a good help section somewhere that I can visit in order to figure out how to do these before I totally botch my sequences? (that I've already backed up separately just in case anyway...)

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    Jack (or anyone),

    How do I then import my controller set up into the new track I set up? Doesn't seem to work when I just do an import. Do I have to set up the track with all the same controllers again? If so, UGH!

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    Default Re: VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    To import you must have exported the channel configuration from another sequence. You can right click on the channel name and insert a controller above or below the point of insertion. Did that answer your question?
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    Al,

    Thanks for the response. I had previously exported my configuration once I had it finalized and have been using it since then on new sequences. I imported that same profile to the new track and it didn't show anything on the left side in the channel list (the names for each row in the table). Is that the right way to do it? Or does it not import channels from a primary track to a new track in the same sequence?
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    Default Re: VMPs - how does that look in the software?

    I guess you are using more than 1 track. I can't help you because I don't use multiple tracks. Sorry.

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    Are you using the LOR "Tracks" feature and trying to get that to transfer to another sequence ? I don't think exporting the channel grid saves any of the Tracks configurations. You may need to define the Tracks for each new sequence.

    Does anyone have a process to copy LOR Tracks (assuming a common Channel Grid) from one sequence to another ?

    Are we talking about the same thing here ?
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    Denny,

    I added a track to an existing Sequence. Now I'm trying to add the channel configurations to that same track. I can't import them from an export. I'm curious if there is another way to add the same channel configuration to another track in the same sequence.

    Or am I trying to use Tracks the wrong way?

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    Your answer. Yes/no and it isn't good practice.
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    Based on the cautions, and knowing how POORLY architect-ed LOR actually is .. I would not recommend trying to do this Scott.

    I strongly suggest that you organize your channel view in the editor to serve your needs. The Tracks feature really does not do much for you until you get into hundreds of channels. I used tracks on one song last year and now that particular song is the only one that does not fit my quick migration process (from last year's channels to this year's channels). At this point I am sorry a wasted my time using Tracks at all .. I just thought it was cool to put all the Red White and Blue channels in one track for the Star Spangled Banner. I'd have one less headache right now if I had avoided Tracks...
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