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    Well folks... it looks like the time has arrived!

    From Response-Box website...

    A T3 controller is designed to drive up to 4 strings of 42 nodes. This neatly consumes (up to) an entire DMX universe and a 10A, 5V switching power supply.

    The T3 includes an internal effects engine. It’s been designed to be very flexible and powerful. Operating modes (which can easily be changed using a simple PC utility program) include…

    Full discrete control of 168 nodes (4 strings of 42). Requires 510 DMX channels.
    Discrete control of 42 nodes on string #1. Data is copied to the remaining three strings, if installed. Requires 126 DMX channels.
    Discrete control of the first 7 nodes on string #1. Data is copied in groups of 7 to the remainder of the string, then to strings #2, #3 and #4 if installed. Requires 21 DMX channels.
    ‘Test Mode,’ which sweeps through each color and each node in quick succession.
    ‘Standalone Mode,’ which displays a preset effect (or, alternately, smoothly alternates between pre-chosen effects) at power up. No incoming DMX data is required.
    The effects engine requires between 4 and 7 DMX channels. Using these channels, various effect types, speeds and color palettes may be chosen. The engine affords a great deal of flexibility and creativity in display design, without requiring hundreds or thousands of DMX control. Video clips of the engine in action will be posted soon.

    Release date for the T3 controllers and the node strings is planned for May 15, 2010. Stay tuned!

    By the way... I've invited them to the Convention.

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    Would love to have them in August. However, only John (JEC) lives in the US. His partner (MPH), mrpackethead, lives in Australia. Not sure they're doing a worldwide tour.

    Interesting concept, but 42 nodes about 4 inches apart is only 14 feet long. I'm still wondering about the connection method and waterproofing of the nodes - not conducive to a mega tree. Will they pull apart when strung tightly?
    Mark

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    John, RGB guy, replied back today and said he would like to attend and will be checking his schedule.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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    Seems like there's a need for some kind of pluggable RBG modules that can string together to fit different kinds of displays. Or someone needs to invent some RGB netting that comes pre-wired and can be stacked like patchwork .. Then with unlimited funds I could get that RGB roof we talked about last year !!!

    What's the cost for this "engine" expected to be ?
    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidcole View Post
    What's the cost for this "engine" expected to be ?
    Not sure what the actual cost of the controller is...the nodes were expected to be about $2 a node.
    Mark

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    With 4" spacing, that's $18 per square foot, except the last foot in each row, which would be $6 more <each> ... :-)

    Hmm, I think the center roof section of my house is about 24 by 24. That section would cost over $10K .. Still a bit steep for a private show. Not bad for commercial applications tho.
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    "Deck The Halls"

    Anyone have a spare priceless vase that had been in their family for generations that can be hocked to pay for something like this?

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    More info on the system...

    We’re excited to announce pre-ordering for the RGB nodes & controllers.

    Above all, we want to ensure that our products match your expectations and the application you have planned. Therefore, we’re committed to taking the time required to completely understand your requirements.

    As part of your system, you may need:

    Strings of 42 waterproof 8-bit RGB nodes on 10 cm centers
    T1 Art-Net or ACN (basically DMX over ethernet) bridge converters
    T2 USB to DMX bridges (similar in function to an Enttec USB Pro converter, but optimized for driving the T3 controller)
    T3 Node Drive Controller, which handles up to 4 strings and accepts DMX-512. Includes an effects engine for easy programming.
    20′ node extension cable (use only 1 per string)
    12′ power extension cable (use only 1 per T3 controller)
    5V DC switching power supplies
    Waterproof enclosures for power supplies
    Software for easily driving large arrays of RGB LEDs
    Just fill out the form below with as much detail as you can. When does your system need to go live? How do you plan to control it? Indicate whether you’d like to be contacted by phone or by email, and we’ll be in touch with pricing and a proposed system architecture.

    Note that due to extraordinary demand, systems quoted right now will be available for delivery in about 4 weeks. However, by mid-summer, we expect to have inventory on everything.

    http://response-box.com/rgb/request-a-system-quote/

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    Another update from John...

    Toolchain is Madrix, a T2 USB to DMX bridge, a T3 node controller and 4 strings of 42 nodes.

    Front porch is suggested, but neither required nor included.


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    Yeah, saw that in this mornings email. Also a post on DIYC where he stated it took about 5 minutes for that sequence. Amazing stuff is coming to us peons someday.
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    And to give you an idea of pricing.

    Each 42-light string is about $100
    The T3 controller is just under $200 (controls 4 strings)
    The T2 USB-DMX bridge - can't remember(need one per T3)

    If you think that's the worst, the cost of the Madrix SW is over $1000, I believe.

    LightShowPro (LSP) would also drive this, and is currently available for less than $100
    Mark

    New location - new display. Looking forward to 2015 season!

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    An update....


    Coming Very Soon: Open Source Controller

    Posted by JEC on August 6th, 2010

    Just a quick note before the weekend… On Monday, August 9, we’ll publish a whole batch of documents, including:

    Source code for driving last year’s 5 bit nodes and this year’s 8 bit nodes (the control protocol is quite different) based on DMX input.
    Schematics for a simple 4-string driver system.
    Eagle & gerber files for a known-good PCB layout.
    PCBs from the shop shelf – at least 50 pieces – will be available for a nominal fee.
    All information will be released under a Creative Commons Non-Commercial license.

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    Uh William,

    I just made a new post under hardware on this subject
    John (The Mascot)
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    And I beat you to the draw, lol.

    Investment coming: http://response-box.com/rgb/2010-node-store/

    My new project will probably include RGB nodes now.

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    Yeah you did beat me to it, darn it!

    Now I know why you needed all those molex connectors!

    100 strings of RGB nodes for only $7800.

    Man, can't wait to see your finished project
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