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    guys no worries if i told you of all the experience ive had in my 57 years you d swear i was lieing yes i was born in the dark but it wasn t last nite yes there is a lot i don t know about this new hobby but hay i got 10 1/2 months to learn hummmmm not much time is it thanks guys member to look out for the blind guy
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    Lot's of experts and engineers, and then, there is Al (one of a kind)
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    Mike, really you need to make a decision before you start buying, and stick with it. Otherwise, during the rush of set up, you might string SPT2 wire and grab some SPT1 plugs or sockets and then spend many hours trying to figure out why something not's working, or vice-versa.
    I settled on SPT1 for two reasons: Lowes and HD keep it in stock, and the thinner profile allows me to fish more lines through the 1/2" conduit I use along my eaves. But I made that decision before discovering that most TASL folks prefer SPT2, and thats reflected in the group buys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanta View Post
    I settled on SPT1 for two reasons: Lowes and HD keep it in stock, and the thinner profile allows me to fish more lines through the 1/2" conduit I use along my eaves. But I made that decision before discovering that most TASL folks prefer SPT2, and thats reflected in the group buys.
    Well I settled on SPT1 many years ago, but not because of Lowe's or HD - in my opinion their prices are too dang high compared to other places. For what they want for two 250 feet spools, I can usually get a spool of 1000 feet delivered for less money.

    I'm sure you are also doing the math calculations for derating the current handeling capabilities of the SPT1 when you put multiple pairs in the 1/2 conduit. Otherwise it may fail, with not good results, since it was not designed or certified to be run through conduit.

    I like SPT1 because it is lighter in weight and much more flexible, costs less for the wire, and the connectors are also usually less expensive (35 - 37 cents each during the annual internet only sale from Home Depot)

    I don't know why the Raleigh area folks use SPT2. Just a local decision I guess.....
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    I will likely have some incandescents to sell. Some 100 strings, some icicles. Need to figure out what I paid for them last year.

    I am bringing Walter's star, but it's not for sale. If he doesn't pick it up from me then, I'm keeping it...
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    Looks like Walter has to work.
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    Wooo Hooo!!! It's mine!!! All Mine!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

    Guess it's ok if I miss the workshop this year!!! Yea!
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    aww, too bad. We will miss him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanta View Post
    I settled on SPT1 for two reasons: Lowes and HD keep it in stock, and the thinner profile allows me to fish more lines through the 1/2" conduit I use along my eaves. But I made that decision before discovering that most TASL folks prefer SPT2, and thats reflected in the group buys.
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    Mike, Lowe's calls it lamp cord. Look for 16 or 18 awg lamp cord. Some people use landscape lighting cord. Landscaping wire is not rated for 120 volts. Some people will tell you that it has worked fine for them for 235 years and their daddy and granddaddy used it and "they ain't never been shocked yet". Idiots are born every minute.

    Like John said, Lowe's price is too high. I've bought it from them in the past in a pinch but good Lord, I used 8000 feet of wire this past year. Lowe's would have paid off one of their stores with the profits if I had bought that much wire from them.
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    who me worry ?
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    al i work at lowes lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Well I settled on SPT1 many years ago, but not because of Lowe's or HD - in my opinion their prices are too dang high compared to other places. For what they want for two 250 feet spools, I can usually get a spool of 1000 feet delivered for less money.

    I'm sure you are also doing the math calculations for derating the current handeling capabilities of the SPT1 when you put multiple pairs in the 1/2 conduit. Otherwise it may fail, with not good results, since it was not designed or certified to be run through conduit.
    Sorry I'm just now seeing this... Somehow I breezed by it initially. Lowe's and HD get $39 for 250', and the lowest I've seen 1000' is $130 since copper has been on the rise (via skycraft), so it's really not that much more by time you factor shipping. I've never seen 1000' rolls for $80 including shipping so maybe I'm shopping in the wrong places... again!

    As for derating calculations... ummm, no. But then again, each conductor would only be driving at most 6 strands of 300 count minis. Some will be driving just a few strands of leds. But, given your warning I may well look into grounding the conduit just to be on the safe side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanta View Post
    Sorry I'm just now seeing this... Somehow I breezed by it initially. Lowe's and HD get $39 for 250', and the lowest I've seen 1000' is $130 since copper has been on the rise (via skycraft), so it's really not that much more by time you factor shipping. I've never seen 1000' rolls for $80 including shipping so maybe I'm shopping in the wrong places... again!

    As for derating calculations... ummm, no. But then again, each conductor would only be driving at most 6 strands of 300 count minis. Some will be driving just a few strands of leds. But, given your warning I may well look into grounding the conduit just to be on the safe side.

    Shanta -

    I really doubt it's going to be $80 for 1000' this year, but we can always hope.

    The red flashing light and the sirens went off when I saw "6 strands of 300 count minis." - before I misquoted ratings, I had to go look at a box of Walmart 300 count icicle lights. Less than I was thinking - .6 amps. 6 strands would be 3.6 amps draw at full brilliance. Figure 5 amp draw for safety reasons (and turn-on current; incandescent lights when dark are dead shorts; heating to white-hot increases their resistance) and then take that into account for the number of cords you're running.

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