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    Default How visible is YOUR antenna?

    Wife is now questioning whether or not we would be allowed to put up an antenna to broadcast in FM for the show (HOA and all that mess). Anyone had any issues with HOAs for putting up an antenna? Where do you put your antenna? I know Denny's is in the front of his house.

    Anyone think this antenna would even be visible during the day on my house? Would put it over the garage, but maybe on a sewer vent over the main part of the house. Would prefer over the garage since that's a flatter roof, but there's nothing there now to secure it to.

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    Scott... that antenna is much over kill.

    Here's what I use.

    I can go miles if needed.

    But, the HOA cannot stop you from putting an antenna up because the courts have ruled against it.

    HOA vs FCC, we know who's going to win that battle.

    You're only receiving and off-air radio or tv signal, lol.

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    The antenna that I have is tiny and is tough to notice. The aerials are very small. I used a piece of black iron pipe to secure it to the chimney. You could make a dipole wire antenna that would work fine for you. You could mount it to the eaves of the house. However, I would not be concerned. Here is my antenna.
    http://www.fmdxantenna.com/proddetail.php?prod=14tun

    You can call the HOA association and ask them.

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    My antenna is a piece of wire inside a piece of pvc pipe and it is inside the house about 3 ft away from a front window. You can hear the music for a block or two away. If I wanted to put it outside it has red tape wrapped around it and looks like a decoration. The year before I used the little stick antenna that came with my Ramsey FM25B sitting on a baking sheet in front of the window, but again inside the house and that signal also carried for several blocks.
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    Al and I use the same antenna with good results. I put mine in front on purpose so it's clearly part of my Christmas decorations (even tho it's not decorated). My HOA is a PITA, but they would not complain about the antenna without dragging the whole display into the fracas. I could see the front page now "Cary HOA is Scrooge"

    But I would say HOA vs FCC .. HOA wins because FCC would never give you an audience !

    I prefer having a little overkill with my FM signal. I will always drive around my neighborhood testing the distance to what I want. You can always reduce the signal if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidcole View Post
    My HOA is a PITA, but they would not complain about the antenna without dragging the whole display into the fracas. I could see the front page now "Cary HOA is Scrooge"

    But I would say HOA vs FCC .. HOA wins because FCC would never give you an audience !

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    Actually the HOA loses and the FCC wins regarding antennas.

    Where the HOA usually wins is by regulating or in some cases shutting down the entire display!
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    ended up ordering the antenna from fmdx this morning. The standard FM25B antenna just didn't cut it from where I wanted to put the computer for the display in order to help minimize the cat 5 runs to all the controllers. (lower in the house)

    Where do y'all buy your cables from? Doesn't sound like this one comes with anything. How do I make sure the antenna cable will work with my transmitter? Has to be: "A good shielded 50 ohm cable no less than RG8 is recommended for ultimate range with the coax no longer than is absolutely necessary. "

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    One of the problems that I had was finding an antenna cable that matched the Ramsey on one end and the FMDX on the other. I will have to do some digging in my email archives to figure out what I ordered. I can't remember the names of the connector standards as I write this. The Ramsey uses and "f" connector (I think), so I needed an adapter to get "down" from the Antenna standard to the F standard. Radio Shack was no help at all for that combo. That took another internet order as I recall. The one thing I learned about antenna and radio connector standards is "there are so darned many standards, I'm amazed they can still use the word standard." It's ridiculous. I see what I can do to help you. I may want another adapter too .. So let me see what we can dig up.

    How long of a cable do you need ?
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    If I remember correctly Radio Shack had all the parts including cable. I remember that I was surprised at the cost. If you had more time I could give you the website for custom cabling with custom ends that is tremendously cheaper than most places. But...
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    I remember you talking about that before. Part of the reason I wanted to post here to get thoughts.

    Cable length: really depends on the height I can mount the antenna. I think I need at least 6' to get it outside to the corner, then maybe 10' to get it up a little. But could go higher. I know the higher the better so maybe add another 10' to that. And rounding up for mistakes in my guesses, probably about 30'. Is that too long?
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    No, mine is 50' from the transmitter. The cable will come in increments of 25' if I remember correctly.

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    Figure out that website yet?

    Ended up just calling the guys. They're going to add in an adapter to get me to F on the antenna end. So then all I have to do is get an F to F cable and I'm good. Whew! Those are a dime a dozen. Just have to see where I can get it cheap and fast!
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    Well, after stressing because I couldn't find an RG8 cable with F adapters on both ends, I talked to the FM DX guys again and he said RG6 is fine for a 50' run. So now I can run to Lowe's and grab the $20 50' cable and be good to go. Unless William can find me a better deal in his Lowe's shopping tips...
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    Good point Scott. I just checked my cables and I have both. My RG8 cable with PL259 connectors cost a bunch of money, and I used it last year just to try to get out a few houses of distance .. Then this year I discovered there was a remote carrier on my <old> frequency that was knocking my signal down. Now I found an new one that is a screamer in Cary (92.1) .. and even with the antenna sitting on my porch and using my older RG6 cable with "f" connectors, I'm screamin out more than a half mile with no problem. I tweaked that down a little and I'm still clean to Kildaire Farms road .. This will let people stay on my station while they drive around my whole neighborhood ..
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    RG6 will attenuate the heck of the signal strength. Use as little as possible.

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